and one of the issues that i was very aware of coming from seoul was that if you did opinion survey in the fall of 2004, some 40% of south korea begans were blaming the united states for the north korea nuclear crisis, if you could imagine that. so a lot of what was really necessary in terms of the six-party talk, the process the president bush had set up with [inaudible] process that jim kelly and mike green got going. it in fact it elaborated some of the negotiating strategy. that process was very important not so much in terms of dealing with the always lovable north koreans. you pick to pick them up and hug them, you know. the process was important we had allies that were doubting us. and i think the thing that we did in terms of working with the rok and closing that daylight that it appears between our two countries, and really creating a situation where we could work with the rok on lot of things with i think it was a very important aspect of what we ask. another thing, it goes back to something that dick solomon mentioned. we do best with china when we're doing real stuff with c